Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby van Statten » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:50 pm

KarenGillanFan wrote:Everyone blames Moffat for the faults in this era, nearly 99% of the time, but in fact some people need to pay closer attention to the true, specifics and actually identify who may be behind the faults. Yes, some may not like Moffat's episodes, but at the same time, the others that are disliked are not down to Moffat, and flaws in continuity are sometimes not always down to Moffat, but to other writers.

That's his job as show runner? Not his fault... Excuses... just making excuses for someone who doesn't do his job. So if this is not his problem then what the hell does he doe? :roll: You sound like a sad little lemming following Moffat off a cliff.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:55 pm

The only problem with the whole thing is, that every attack on Moffat could be used on RTD as well.

Let's be grateful they are making the show, there have been issues in the past with head writers (Douglas Adams never got Shada finished, although that was beyond his control, Robert Holmes never got The Trial of a Time Lord finished, although again that wasn't his fault and was a very tragic thing to happen).
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby Melkur » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:20 pm

The Eternal Dalek wrote:
Let's be grateful they are making the show


True, for without it i would never have got back into the classics....i often wonder what i'd be without it. Sane maybe? :lol: ;)
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby van Statten » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:27 pm

Melkur wrote:
The Eternal Dalek wrote:
Let's be grateful they are making the show


True, for without it i would never have got back into the classics....i often wonder what i'd be without it. Sane maybe? :lol: ;)

I'd have more toy space.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby KarenGillanFan » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:39 pm

van Statten wrote:
KarenGillanFan wrote:Everyone blames Moffat for the faults in this era, nearly 99% of the time, but in fact some people need to pay closer attention to the true, specifics and actually identify who may be behind the faults. Yes, some may not like Moffat's episodes, but at the same time, the others that are disliked are not down to Moffat, and flaws in continuity are sometimes not always down to Moffat, but to other writers.

That's his job as show runner? Not his fault... Excuses... just making excuses for someone who doesn't do his job. So if this is not his problem then what the hell does he doe? :roll: You sound like a sad little lemming following Moffat off a cliff.

Don't try and insult me like that. It's very lame, and not very nice talk. :)

Moffat's job as show runner does not involve crouching his neck over everybody when writing their scripts, and making sure there are no flaws (although that should be looked for). Even still, not all blame can be put on him for the script writers should be expected to keep the script as continual as possible to the show's canon. Any on-screen errors cannot be put down to Moffat either because that is either the fault of the Director or the Editor. Everybody has their thing to say about Moffat, and half the time there is a massive flaw in what they seem to think is an excellent logic. :roll:
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby van Statten » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:44 pm

It's the truth, he is suppose to oversee every script written, make changes where it fits his needs... sorry if you find it such an insult that you speak like a lemming. When someone runs, RUNS a show all those faults get laid at their door, comes with the job. These other script writers have a lot of junk to work with... like fitting River Song BS into their scripts. I'm sorry if you lack taste. :)
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby Melkur » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:45 pm

van Statten wrote:
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True, for without it i would never have got back into the classics....i often wonder what i'd be without it. Sane maybe? :lol: ;)

I'd have more toy space.


God yeah, and more money probably....although if you're like me, we'd soon find something else to spend it on! "What's that you say NECA? A 7 inch scale Alien Queen coming out next year?" :lol:
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby van Statten » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Melkur wrote:
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Melkur wrote:God yeah, and more money probably....although if you're like me, we'd soon find something else to spend it on! "What's that you say NECA? A 7 inch scale Alien Queen coming out next year?" :lol:

Really? Or you kidding? :lol:
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby KarenGillanFan » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:50 pm

van Statten wrote:It's the truth, he is suppose to oversee every script written, make changes where it fits his needs... sorry if you find it such an insult that you speak like a lemming. When someone runs, RUNS a show all those faults get laid at their door, comes with the job. These other script writers have a lot of junk to work with... like fitting River Song BS into their scripts. I'm sorry if you lack taste. :)

There isn't any need for the sarcastic tone of your reply, either. :)

A flaw in his leadership could be said that he does not oversee all scripts as he should (if he so doesn't), but that doesn't make his role and the way he delivers that any less important, or anything less to be admired - for he is a good script writer (come back to me on that with what you may) and a good leader for the series.

As for your comment about River Song, that is a matter of opinion, so please do not comment as if my opinion is of the inferior nature (because it is not, and neither is your's). Your comment anyway, in itself, is invalid because none other writers have written for River Song.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby Melkur » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:53 pm

van Statten wrote:Really? Or you kidding? :lol:


Yeah, they are really are (maybe seeing how the other ranges go first, but i know they've been touting it), i think it was a toss up between that and ED-209 for the Robocop range. Sometime this year they're releasing two of the Colonial Marines and a Prometheus range too, plus a new Warrior alien with limbs that blow off! See look, CO could learn off them, no harm in letting us know what's in the pipeline, i don't feel spoilt, i feel excited!
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