Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby DOCTORWHOFAN77 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:00 pm

OMG...I log on, come to this for some news and...

SO MANY PARAGRAPHS!!! IT BURNS THEE EYES OF THE BLESSED!!!! SOMEONE SMITE THESE EVIL PARAGRAPHS TO SAVE MY INNOCENT EYES!!!

Anyway, continue. :)
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby van Statten » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:01 pm

DOCTORWHOFAN77 wrote:OMG...I log on, come to this for some news and...

SO MANY PARAGRAPHS!!! IT BURNS THEE EYES OF THE BLESSED!!!! SOMEONE SMITE THESE EVIL PARAGRAPHS TO SAVE MY INNOCENT EYES!!!

Anyway, continue. :)

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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:14 pm

The difference is, there is a lot more focus on the paritcular episodes. In the US more episodes are produced due to a quicker turn around in episodes being produced and different structures. Here in the UK most shows generally only have one or two writers so will obviously only produce about six episodes a year. Of course some shows do follow the US writing structure of an alternating team of several writers but that is mainly the soap opera where a high number of episodes are needed to be churned out in a small period of time.

Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages. The US system is better for the viewers as it produces more episodes over a smaller period of time but the UK system allows for far more freedom for writers and directors as having more time to play with and less control from head writers (which are different things in the UK and the US as we have already established) allows them to do practically whatever they like and it also allows it to be produced on a far smaller budget. When RTD made Miracle Day in the US using the UK system it came as quite a shock to the US writers but msot of them actually prefered it over the US system.

Although a significant problem is the advertising from BBC America. I've critisised them before for it but the problems just continue. They act as though it is their show and everything doe on it is especially for them, they just show the episodes and should make it relevant for the US audience not act as though the UK and US audiences are the same. Australia had the opposite problem back in the day, they were overly nervous about some of the content and were a bit too keen to say it was completely unsuitable leaving the broadcasters with episodes they could not screen at the desired timeslot. It was more noticeable in the Pertwee era but it did cost the Australian audience Mission ot the Unknown and The Daleks' Master Plan and without Australia's high fees (and the US networks unwilling to buy in balck and white British shows) nobody could pay for the clearance so nobody could watch them, if they had broadcasted it then more countries could have purchased the stories and we may have more of the episodes today.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby KarenGillanFan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:28 pm

The Eternal Dalek wrote:The difference is, there is a lot more focus on the paritcular episodes. In the US more episodes are produced due to a quicker turn around in episodes being produced and different structures. Here in the UK most shows generally only have one or two writers so will obviously only produce about six episodes a year. Of course some shows do follow the US writing structure of an alternating team of several writers but that is mainly the soap opera where a high number of episodes are needed to be churned out in a small period of time.

Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages. The US system is better for the viewers as it produces more episodes over a smaller period of time but the UK system allows for far more freedom for writers and directors as having more time to play with and less control from head writers (which are different things in the UK and the US as we have already established) allows them to do practically whatever they like and it also allows it to be produced on a far smaller budget. When RTD made Miracle Day in the US using the UK system it came as quite a shock to the US writers but msot of them actually prefered it over the US system.

Although a significant problem is the advertising from BBC America. I've critisised them before for it but the problems just continue. They act as though it is their show and everything doe on it is especially for them, they just show the episodes and should make it relevant for the US audience not act as though the UK and US audiences are the same. Australia had the opposite problem back in the day, they were overly nervous about some of the content and were a bit too keen to say it was completely unsuitable leaving the broadcasters with episodes they could not screen at the desired timeslot. It was more noticeable in the Pertwee era but it did cost the Australian audience Mission ot the Unknown and The Daleks' Master Plan and without Australia's high fees (and the US networks unwilling to buy in balck and white British shows) nobody could pay for the clearance so nobody could watch them, if they had broadcasted it then more countries could have purchased the stories and we may have more of the episodes today.

*awaits your paragraph structure to be criticized once more*
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:30 pm

KarenGillanFan wrote:*awaits your paragraph structure to be criticized once more*


I don't really care about the structure being critisised. If it annoys people then I'm happy, it means they have to pay attention to what I'm saying even more to distract themselves.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby NeonWolf » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:31 pm

KGF Van is insulting your paragraph structure and now soon to be your reading.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby KarenGillanFan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:32 pm

NeonWolf wrote:KGF Van is insulting your paragraph structure and now soon to be your reading.

Yeah cos he cba reading stuff that's well structured. -_-
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby van Statten » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:32 pm

NeonWolf wrote:KGF Van is insulting your paragraph structure and now soon to be your reading.

Exactly! :lol: Ted knows when to place a line break and take a breath unlike Captain Run On up there.
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby TV21_Dalek » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:38 am

To continue the topic of TV drama writing styles, let us journey back to days of yore and enter the worlds of Gerry Anderson. Each episode of every series had a different writer... they had a pool, and those writers who excelled in a certain style of story were used. The ITC adventure series of the 60s and 70s did likewise, including that giant among adventures TV: The Avengers!
Many a Who writer cut their teeth on the Anderson and ITC series: the likes of Terry Nation, Gerry Davies, Dennis Spooner, Robert Holmes...
So the US style of writing teams has been around for decades... nothing new there. 8-)
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Re: Hate for Moffat - Unnecessary?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:43 am

TV21_Dalek wrote:To continue the topic of TV drama writing styles, let us journey back to days of yore and enter the worlds of Gerry Anderson. Each episode of every series had a different writer... they had a pool, and those writers who excelled in a certain style of story were used. The ITC adventure series of the 60s and 70s did likewise, including that giant among adventures TV: The Avengers!
Many a Who writer cut their teeth on the Anderson and ITC series: the likes of Terry Nation, Gerry Davies, Dennis Spooner, Robert Holmes...
So the US style of writing teams has been around for decades... nothing new there. 8-)


Similar but not quite the same. Multi-writer teams are quite commonplace on shows on both sides of the Atlantic but as you mentioned the writers are picked based off the style of writing they are good at (rather than a writer trying to adapt the story to their own style as is generally present in the US system).
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