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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:29 pm

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van Statten wrote:I refuse to buy ths drivel, I prefer her novel outcome. It's better. It's cooler! And it's not stupid.

And no, I don't care what the silly BBC says, they just don't like the books cause they're better than the uncool they churn out on a daily basis.


Well don't watch the show if you hate it so much. If you want to go ack to the wilderness times then be my guest but don't start insulting Doctor Who the show and calling it non-canon. And no swearing also.


Wilderness times? :lol:


Well it does sound a bit funny doesn't it but I guess it was right there were three wilderness periods (1985-86, 1989-96 and 1996-2005).
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby van Statten » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:48 pm

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van Statten wrote:I refuse to buy ths drivel, I prefer her novel outcome. It's better. It's cooler! And it's not stupid.

And no, I don't care what the silly BBC says, they just don't like the books cause they're better than the uncool they churn out on a daily basis.


Well don't watch the show if you hate it so much. If you want to go ack to the wilderness times then be my guest but don't start insulting Doctor Who the show and calling it non-canon. And no swearing also.

My God are you ever so pedantic. You'd like anything with Doctor slapped on it. I bet you'd buy the Doctor Who My Little Pony cross-over too, wouldn't you? It's terrible to do that to Ace and so silly! I'm sorry if you buy everyting you're spoon fed good or bad.
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:04 pm

van Statten wrote:
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van Statten wrote:I refuse to buy ths drivel, I prefer her novel outcome. It's better. It's cooler! And it's not stupid.

And no, I don't care what the silly BBC says, they just don't like the books cause they're better than the uncool they churn out on a daily basis.


Well don't watch the show if you hate it so much. If you want to go ack to the wilderness times then be my guest but don't start insulting Doctor Who the show and calling it non-canon. And no swearing also.

My God are you ever so pedantic. You'd like anything with Doctor slapped on it. I bet you'd buy the Doctor Who My Little Pony cross-over too, wouldn't you? It's terrible to do that to Ace and so silly! I'm sorry if you buy everyting you're spoon fed good or bad.


I don't care about the books, CDs etc. they all contradict the show. What is wrong with Ace running a charity raising billions to help the lives of children? We never saw what happened to her in the end so it is as good a conclusion to her story as we are likely to get unless she makes an apperance.
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Postby van Statten » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:10 pm

The show contradicts itself! So what's the point? Some of the books and audios are better the show wishes it could be as good. So good in fact they have to adapt some of these stories for the television series. Stop being a blind fanboy and get some sense! Ace running a charity is out of her character! And if you can't see that. Go back and Watch your Seventh Doctor episodes.
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby Thete » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:17 pm

Yes, it was a very inept continuity flub. Hopefully it will join several others, that have appeared on screen, which have later been contradicted or forgotten about.
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:56 am

van Statten wrote:The show contradicts itself! So what's the point? Some of the books and audios are better the show wishes it could be as good. So good in fact they have to adapt some of these stories for the television series. Stop being a blind fanboy and get some sense! Ace running a charity is out of her character! And if you can't see that. Go back and Watch your Seventh Doctor episodes.


Well I shall continue to ignore these books and CDs until Ace makes an apperance on screen. As the story was written by RTD he is bound to write the episode she comes back in if she does.
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby Thete » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:17 pm

The Eternal Dalek wrote:As the story was written by RTD he is bound to write the episode she comes back in if she does.


Bound how? RTD left a loose end for The Master to return with the expectation someone else would need it to bring him back after he left. Now he went and did it himself, but he expected another to do it at first, and that was a primary character; one he had done major writing for. He was willing to let that go.

A fleeting sentence about Ace, among other characters (and possibly based on hearsay), does not make her "his".
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:33 pm

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The Eternal Dalek wrote:As the story was written by RTD he is bound to write the episode she comes back in if she does.


Bound how? RTD left a loose end for The Master to return with the expectation someone else would need it to bring him back after he left. Now he went and did it himself, but he expected another to do it at first, and that was a primary character; one he had done major writing for. He was willing to let that go.

A fleeting sentence about Ace, among other characters (and possibly based on hearsay), does not make her "his".


Maybe that's why he just called her "Dorothy". Not Ace. It could be a companion we've never seen on screen.
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby Thete » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:38 pm

The Eternal Dalek wrote:Maybe that's why he just called her "Dorothy". Not Ace. It could be a companion we've never seen on screen.


No, "A Charitable Earth" was just too cute to ignore within the context. :roll:
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Re: Dorothy? Solved

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:09 pm

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The Eternal Dalek wrote:Maybe that's why he just called her "Dorothy". Not Ace. It could be a companion we've never seen on screen.


No, "A Charitable Earth" was just too cute to ignore within the context. :roll:


The thing with RTD is he always leaves himself some wriggle room in a story which most people mistake for plot holes same with the Grand Mofferator. I wouldn't be suprised if the character was Ace but there is always that small chance it's not. As RTD is head of spin-offs and Moffat does not want to bring back old characters Ace could only really come back through RTD.
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