Q.L.A gun hidden sounds

[KarenGillanFan]

That makes no sense. The Doctor gets mad for lots of reasons. We can't call this Valeyard.

It makes sense, I just don't see how the line between the Doctor getting angry and the Valeyard's presence because of the Doctor's anger can be justified.

[Melkur]

Dalek?

Well in Dalek the Doctor did get a tad too angry before he realised he had gone a bit too far and lowered his gun. Maybe that's what Ted means too, guess only he could say.

So whenever we see the Doctor gets angry, it automatically means it's the Valeyard?

Well i'd have a good old laugh if the aspects of the Valeyard manifested itself when the Doctor was having cake and ice cream

"You don't want to see me when i'm angry!"
"Valeyard smash!"

I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder in the end.

[KarenGillanFan]

Probably.

[The Eternal Dalek]

Not quite. As the Doctor is getting older his darker side is developing. One day it will become so strong that it will break from the Doctor himself and become the Valeyard.

Besides The Trial of a Time Lord and perhaps Amy's Chioce the Valeyard himself has had no influence over events himself but we certainly do see the signs that he is beginning to form inside the Doctor's head, and htat he is slowly slipping into the darkness.

Were the events of A Good Man Goes to War enough to salvage the Doctor and stop the Valeyard? Or will they just delay him a couple of centuries or five?

[KarenGillanFan]

So if the Valeyard story fully develops within the next few years, there'd have to be a massive time jump in the show?

[The Eternal Dalek]

So if the Valeyard story fully develops within the next few years, there'd have to be a massive time jump in the show?

Twelfth Doctor onwards is all we know. The Doctor's dark side is definetly developing and is beginning to influence the real world (see Amy's Choice).

Although The God Complex to Closing Time was nearly 200 years, so it isn't impossible.

[KarenGillanFan]

Ah, cool!

[spoilers]

This will be well beyond the 50th. Matt Smith will have left the show by the time the Valeyard returns. That's one of the few things we can guarentee.

However, elements of the storyline may very well crop up and certainly have done, The Trial of a TIme Lord, the Cartmel master plan, Dalek, The Waters of Mars, Amy's Choice and A Good Man Goes to War have all been integral parts of the Valeyard story line. No doubt there will be more (and have been but I just can't be bothered trying to think for more, Journey's End perhaps).

Not forgetting the runaway bride.

[KarenGillanFan]

This will be well beyond the 50th. Matt Smith will have left the show by the time the Valeyard returns. That's one of the few things we can guarentee.

However, elements of the storyline may very well crop up and certainly have done, The Trial of a TIme Lord, the Cartmel master plan, Dalek, The Waters of Mars, Amy's Choice and A Good Man Goes to War have all been integral parts of the Valeyard story line. No doubt there will be more (and have been but I just can't be bothered trying to think for more, Journey's End perhaps).

Not forgetting the runaway bride.

Oh yeah.

"Doctor.... Stop!"

[spoilers]

This will be well beyond the 50th. Matt Smith will have left the show by the time the Valeyard returns. That's one of the few things we can guarentee.

However, elements of the storyline may very well crop up and certainly have done, The Trial of a TIme Lord, the Cartmel master plan, Dalek, The Waters of Mars, Amy's Choice and A Good Man Goes to War have all been integral parts of the Valeyard story line. No doubt there will be more (and have been but I just can't be bothered trying to think for more, Journey's End perhaps).

Not forgetting the runaway bride.

Family of blood, but he also went crazy at amy in the almost people but he blamed that on the flesh signal but the ganger doctor didn't feel it as much so maybe the valeyard was taking control.