Past Companions?

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Re: Past Companions?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Tue May 01, 2012 8:24 pm

judooning wrote:Well recently in DWA, ever week there has been a poster of a different monster from the RTD era. Empty child last week. Then Trin E and Zu zanna, then pig slaves, Cassandra, Adipose, Max capricorn, Sec Hybrid etc.


So I've just caught them on their off week then.

The difference with DWA is that it has a different target audience though. THey are appealing to 6-12 year olds. A twelve year old will have been five at the time of Eccelston, so they will remember it, but those readers are dropping away to wherever (DWM seems the most common option) and soon the audience will drop away. Being a children's magazine, they will soon be losing them all the Eccelston generation fans.

I feel it will be important, as too many fans still see the classic and RTD eras as seperate for whatever reason but soon that will lose its popularity amongst the really young and the two groups of fans will sort of merge into one rather than such a dramatic split.

There are very few of us that became fans in the wilderness era, some caught the tail end of it or became fans during the deep darkest parts of that era. Because of that, the few of us between the two groups are able to see how riddiculous this feud is. One day the RTD era will fall out of favour (unfortunately it had taken longer than I expected) but these people will soon realise that there is no longer as much focus on their Doctor and will similarly become annoyed at the "young people" who never realised these people are exactly what they used to be. As I never really had a Doctor I don't fit in anywhere so I know that this can't last forever.

There will be as much chance of them being a classic companion as a RTD one. Or there would be if they had any sense. You might get Rose, Martha or Donna at a push, but not because of people remembering them at time of broadcast, rather CO assuming that is what a seven year old would be interested in.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby judooning » Tue May 01, 2012 8:29 pm

I suppose it's me as well. I need to realise that my Doctor (10th) Is becoming less know to people who watch the show.

I've completely accepted that the doctor has moved on, along with me. But i just now need to accept that he won't be the best known character any more.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Tue May 01, 2012 8:35 pm

judooning wrote:I suppose it's me as well. I need to realise that my Doctor (10th) Is becoming less know to people who watch the show.

I've completely accepted that the doctor has moved on, along with me. But i just now need to accept that he won't be the best known character any more.


Well you will be able to see it then from right in the middle of the whole thing. You will be able to see the Ninth Doctor fans as being further back in time, and the Eleventh Doctor fans as being further forward.

David Tennant has not gone completely but if you look at CB or MI, they have a tiny amount of coverage of Eccelston. His Doctor has dies out of popularity and Tennant is on his way now.

But, in a way I think it will be a good thing, as the fans of those Doctors will need to accept that their Doctors are now classics they will have an interest in other parts of the classic era as well.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby judooning » Tue May 01, 2012 8:38 pm

All in all, Doctor who is one big show. It doesn't really matter if you joined when John became the doctor, or when David became the doctor. Your still a fan of the show. And the show is one big story.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Tue May 01, 2012 8:47 pm

judooning wrote:All in all, Doctor who is one big show. It doesn't really matter if you joined when John became the doctor, or when David became the doctor. Your still a fan of the show. And the show is one big story.


Exactly, and the "current" fans try to claim only their bit matters. But at the end of the day their bit is not the current part so they don't have any right to claiming they are the current lot now.

The RTD era is in the past, the concept of "NuWho" is dead. The RTD era is just another part, like the JNT era, the only difference is it is pretty fragmented, but so was The Trial of a Time Lord and the Seventh Doctor's era.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby Rosetyler » Wed May 09, 2012 2:34 pm

Oh I still call it NuWho.

Anything Post 2005 is NuWho. Regardless, in my eyes. It could be going until 25240563486356-8, as long as there is no gap, it is NuWho.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Wed May 09, 2012 2:37 pm

Rosetyler wrote:Oh I still call it NuWho.

Anything Post 2005 is NuWho. Regardless, in my eyes. It could be going until 25240563486356-8, as long as there is no gap, it is NuWho.


Well then what is the 86-89 run called? Surely it isn't part of the "original run" either? Or what about the TV Movie? There were gaps, thus they must surely be NuWho long before the supposed "NuWho" came about.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby Rosetyler » Wed May 09, 2012 2:41 pm

IMO it goes...

1963-1989 (Classic)

It was a one year gap...

1996 (TV Movie)

It was stand alone....

2005- (NuWho)

It was after the time war, the break that describes Doctor who.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby The Eternal Dalek » Wed May 09, 2012 2:44 pm

Rosetyler wrote:IMO it goes...

1963-1989 (Classic)

It was a one year gap...

1996 (TV Movie)

It was stand alone....

2005- (NuWho)

It was after the time war, the break that describes Doctor who.


It was still a gap in broadcasting, regardless of how you dress it up. You even said it yourself that a gap would be the reason for breaking it up.

It's one show or several, you can't start picking and choosing which ones you want to clump together.
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Re: Past Companions?

Postby nimon » Fri May 11, 2012 8:26 pm

just wanted to say, having started watching the show in the 1990s via uktv gold repeats, I think the whole thing about which doctor is the best and most important is quite silly, no one actor is more important than a whole show, I also think arguing over what constitutes the so called classic series and new series is silly for me its just one big long series the only time I make a difference between post and pre 2005 is to those who either know little of the show or those who only started with doctors ecclestone or after and don't know much about the "old ones". oh and the tv movie is included in the series but the peter cushing ones aren't (as great as they may be). end of mild rant. :oops:
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